FG42 TII buyers info/specs
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FYI on future FG42 builds….. We are going to a solid walnut hand guard in an attempt at reducing both the number of these lost in production from cracks/chipping/splitting and in-use splitting. The end user splitting has not been as large a problem but just as with the originals – it is a problem. And yes we are aware the originals had the waffle strip reinforcement but we also know they split just the same. The original butt stocks were made from laminate with solid hand guards and now so will ours. These will of course completely interchange with the laminated models. The laminated ones can still be had special order on your build sheet at no extra charge but we think the solid walnut will be a little more durable
Take a look at this cool video! www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4lvZbAe04
or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc1brjG8hws
The purpose of this page is to try to cut to the important stuff about the rifle concerning pricing, delivery, spare parts, choices/options, etc. There will probably be very few pictures and I hope to keep some organization here – maybe it won’t end up looking like my desk!
Just to let you know, the newly made chrome bore barrels are in and they are awesome!
This rifle can also be made Ca. legal by ????.
The rifle was ATF approved in April of 2011 and the price is $5,495.00 as of 09-01-18.
To be placed on the waiting list for the FG42 you need to send the 100.00 non refundable deposit and request to firstname.lastname@example.org not here on the site.
If you are truly interested in owning one there are two ways right now. The first, and surest is to get on the waiting list by contacting us at email@example.com with your contact info and stating that you want to be added to the list. The list is getting longer and if you get on right now the projected delivery at our present pace could be up to 9 months – hence the second option. Which is to bypass the list and buy one of the rifles that will be set aside out of each run that will be sold at auction – probably on gunbroker.com. How many? Probably 5 out of each run of 15. The opening bid will be the same price as for the “waiting list” rifles. If this doesn’t work we will sell them all from the list. If it works really well and we get more for the auction guns what will we do? Continue to sell to the waiting list at the SAME as before price and 5 at auction. This is not a way to find out how far we could jack the price up to – just a way not to have to wait.
We have just recently changed our policy regarding adding names to the list of those wanting to purchase a semi auto FG42. There is now a buyers questionnaire that allows you to make choices on how you would like your rifle to look and a $100.00 non refundable deposit requirement. This supersedes the 500. to start the rifle and now when we are about finished with your rifle we simply call for the balance of funds.The 500 call and then the balance in another 2-4 weeks just seemed redundant.
Things you should know/consider before buying this rifle – what makes it less than a 100% replica and what might be considered improvements in our version verses the original.
1) First and foremost it is built from a solid piece of 4140 that starts out weighing about 13 lbs and ends up at less than 2, and not stamped sheet metal. Why? Because it was the only way we could afford to bring this rifle to you at even a close to affordable price. We are a machine shop – not a sheet metal shop so we do with what we have as tooling dies for the receiver were cost prohibitive for us. And we understand why some would want sheet metal as that was the way the originals were made. But reading the history of the rifle it was done that way to make it faster/cheaper en mass and because making the receiver from solid/forgings like the first model FG42′s was slower and cost prohibitive, and also because of key material shortages at that time. In short – this is not a “cheaped out” way to do it.
As well, we have devoted a lot of time and unnecessary machining to try to make it appear as “sheet metal” as is economically feasible. This will be my FG42 too and I want it to appear as close to original as we can make it without it becoming so expensive that it is relegated to “safe queen” status. I am a shooter and the more I shoot this rifle the more I like it as a shooter and I hope you will too!
2) Did I say we are shooters? Good, because we have added/deviated in a number of places in the materials used on things that don’t show because they are more durable/corrosion resistant etc.
Examples of this are:
a: Gas piston head made from super corrosion resistant 316 stainless steel. This stuff works!
b: Recoil spring guide rod/cup from 17-4 PH hardened stainless – again – good stuff
c: Clip adapter/clip guide made from billet and again, not sheet metal like the originals. Reading the test reports on the rifles if the sheet metal was deformed it could lead to feed issues – we don’t need those issues. Oh yeah, it is heat treated as well.
d: All rifles are now being produced with solid walnut hand guards – like the originals – in a further attempt to reduce cracking in use. Some still like the look of the laminate better and it is still a no cost option if you would rather have it.
The wooden fore-end/hand guard does not have the waffle strip pressed into the end for strengthening like the originals. That was a good idea but we have bonded in a thin steel liner that not only strengthens things but serves as a heat shield as well. In rapid firing 5-7 clips everything ahead of the fore end is skin melting hot – yes I found out the hard way. And there is some pretty noticeable heat is radiating up through the slots in the fore end but the fore end itself is still very comfortable to hold. Not sure how much ammo will make it uncomfortable but I am sure we will just have to find out.
e: The original butt stock insert retaining pins had a very nasty habit of cracking/splitting/pulling through the wood. We had no desire to change the look of the stock as it is part of what “makes” the look in our opinion so…. We used small aluminum re-enforcing tabs inside the stock to eliminate this nasty habit. Yours can be special ordered without this update if you prefer the potential for your rifle to wear/split out like the original. Really not even joking here as some want all the inherent hickey’s of the real deal and we are good with that.
f: Front sight bases which incorporate the bayonet lug and sling swivel and bayonet socket as well are – yes you guessed it – machined from heat treated 4140 steel and not stamped like the originals. This means the 2 little rivet heads that held it together are missing as well but we did spend lots of time trying to duplicate the rest of the look. This is one part that I have to tell you just HAS to be more durable as solid rather than as a stamping because of all that is asked of it! A lot less prone to bending after being dropped as well. So less worry when it falls out of the deer stand!
g: Use of the ZB26/30 magazine. This was done in an attempt to use a high quality mag that was moderately priced, available, was the right caliber and looked right – at least it was when we started this. We have enough to build 250 rifles and give 2 mags per rifle but then we have to figure out something. A “found” warehouse full of them at a good price would be the nicest answer but barring that we may have to make/have made mags one day – I truly hope we end up needing to. And if we ever do they will be new made ZB style mags – they work and why would we change mag types in mid production?
h: Barrel -They are new chrome bore barrels.
i) Aluminum bipod legs. Yes they are aluminum instead of stamped steel like the originals. Not only are they aluminum but they are extremely high quality Shoei die-cast aluminum legs which are lightweight, exact in shape and form, very strong, and high quality overall. Great right? Well one thing that might not be great about that is it means a die-cast aluminum part that pivots into, and bears against a steel bipod leg stop that over time may eat and deform it. That a problem for you? Well it was us too so what to do but design and make another PITA part so that now we get all the benefits of the aluminum and the bearing surface/point of engagement, as well as the spring loaded plunger tube/bearing surfaces in steel!
1) Choice of makers code – fzs with the two acceptance stamps, gcy with a single luftamp, or smg with whatever your preference of stamps.
2) Luftampt/Wiemer eagle/whatever you choose to call it, stamp/stamps on the top plate of the receiver as was done on many of the original guns we have picture references of. Many have told us this incorrect but when faced with pictures of the originals with it decide well ok……. We just finished engraving/stamping all the top plates that were made and all have the acceptance stamps. It is still an option but not until next years run of rifles.
3) Bayonet – only options are a new made replica at 175.00 or a MAS 36 bayonet that you supply and we will shorten the overall length to correct and try to refinish to match as best we can. This we offer at no charge as it doesn’t take a lot of time to do and hey – it is an expensive rifle and we appreciate your business! Time to send in the MAS 36 bayonet would be at the time you send in your deposit as if sent sooner we have the ability to loose it……….
4) Adjustable rear sight. The original was attached with a simple round pin but we will – again at no extra charge – mount it with a small knurled head screw that will give you approximately 9 inches of lateral adjustment at 100 yds as if you shoot much you know all loads don’t hit the same point of aim – even laterally. This will be as unobtrusive as can be – sorry no scale on the base. Going back to the original pinned style rear sight can be done but takes a special pin to cover the small adjustment screw counter bore and try to make it look correct. This will also keep you from having to drift the front sight side to side to do this as with the original. You can still move the front sight but it will be MUCH easier with the screw adjustment on the rear, leaves the front sight looking centered, and no hammering on things.
Note! If you intend to use the Swallowtail style scope mount please be aware i will not clear the adjustable rear sight screw head/bushing and you must therefor stick with the pinned style.
5)Color schemes……. There were many “correct” ones on the original rifles as they were being produced with parts subcontracted out and under times of – well – duress. That said just about anything would be correct in terms of bluing/parkerizing/black paint/clear laquered parts put together. I realize every ones tastes vary and we CAN NOT cater to all of the combos as processing places hit us with minimums and since that means 1 or 2 of this or that will cost the same to process as 50 pieces we can only do so much. So…… We will offer a couple of basic combos and if you want this or that part different and we have it in stock that way or you request it far enough in advance then you can have it. Pictures coming later on this……
6) Wood stain – or not…….. We understand again that there are many “correct” variations on this but we will probably only be offering two on color unstained with a lighter look or darker stained with a clear sealer.
7) 8mm or .308….. Right now the rifle is working/proven in 8mm and .308 FMJ ammo. We are very happy with this but understand the mag issue and the desire to have the .308 for ammo/blanks future availability so…. We have now built and tested the .308 version and finalized on using the M1A mag – the FAL mag just did not work well for this rifle. There are still minor issues to be delt with but the basic rifle is up and running great and we will post pics before long.