FG42 Project Info

Hi,

We are now getting between 1-2 thousand spam mails every day that we sift through to see that we don’t delete legitimate mail. This is a big time killer so until we get the site setup better we are going to ask that if you want to comment or ask a question etc you send it to us at smgguns@yahoo.com .  As of today all bulk spam here will be deleted and the hour or so will shift back to making rifles.  Thanks!

Rick

The rifle was ATF approved in April of 2011 and the price is still $4,995.00.

This rifle can also be made Ca. legal by making the mag release to be below flush of the mag well with a small hole requiring a pin for operation. This we will do for free if the buyer resides there.

The only downside to this “California” version is that since the end of the mag catch is what holds the doors closed they will remain open all the time.

For this reason if anyone from that state gets on our list for a future FG42 rifle and does not wish to have the mag doors or hinges period – since they serve no purpose – then we will deduct 250.00 from the basic  cost of the rifle.

To be placed on the waiting list for the FG42 you need to send the request to smgguns@yahoo.com not here on the site.

 

Hi,

Just wanted to share a little about this latest project of ours. It started back in the mid 1980′s when I first became involved with class III firearms and met another dealer who just “had to have” an FG42 for his collection.  At that time I had no idea what he was talking about so he proceeded to share pictures and info of his “dream rifle”. I thought it looked pretty cool and already had a small but growing WWII German MG collection and thought it would be a cool addition. Then he tells me that when you can find one they run about 30K – that was in the mid 80′s! And so that ended my desire for one. It suddenly became that strange looking weapon that couldn’t possible be worth the money it cost. Back burner it for 20 years…….

Then I see someone is going to build a semi copy of it here in the states and YES I suddenly want one again! Sadly they haven’t been able to bring them to market. I say sadly as the man involved would have made sure it was of the highest quality and worth owning! Time goes on and I once again get involved in the firearms business but this time in the manufacturing end of things and the first thing I do – even before we build the building – is buy a Shoei replica to remind me of the rifle I dream to build one day.

Here we are – a few more years, guns, projects later and we are way past the dreaming stage and at a point I want to see if anyone else out there has a desire to own this rifle like I do. Lots of considerations went into the decisions concerning this project and I will share a few….

First and foremost I wanted to build a rifle that most of the people who wanted to own it could actually afford it. That influenced many things and the way it is made is one of the basics. Our first offering will be of a type II but with a machined from solid steel receiver. The original was made from a stamping but rather than put money we didn’t have into stamping dies (I should have said or not build the rifle due to costs) I decided to try another approach. Fast easy and cheap are not ways to describe this method as the receiver starts out as a chunk of 4140 steel that weighs 13 lbs and ends up loosing about 11 lbs in the process! Other parts and pieces have been modified along the way as well to help us try to gain ATF approval as quickly as possible. These changes cannot be readily seen but can be measured and there are very very few original parts that would go on our rifle. Front site bases and such come to mind.

So what you will have is a rifle with a 95% outward appearance and a 110% fun factor. Take IT to the range or let your buddies handle it and THAT is why we are building it. You will not be getting a 100% museum knockoff – but you also will be able to afford to buy one!

What else will you get? Little things we didn’t deviate away from the original like a rotating bolt, laminated butt stock, cool/weird muzzle brake, chambered for 8mm mauser, etc etc etc……..

So please let me know what you think of the idea – good or bad!

Updates in the form of parts pictures will be added as time permits!

Rick

If you are seriously interested in this rifle and want your name added to the list write me with your contact info at: smgguns@yahoo.com  and I will put you on the list and tell you where you are at on it. Thanks!

We have posted blurbs and updates on:

And the guys over at this site have been good enough to post info on this rifle as well:

http://fallschirmjager.net/Historiker/?cat=5

Take a look – these folks have neat websites that cover all kinds of cool stuff!

36 comments

  • D Johnston (2694 days)

    I’m really excited about the FG42 project, Rick. Thanks for taking the time to keep people informed on the GK43 forum.

  • LEE N (2693 days)

    It would be very nice to get a chance to own one. Keep trying and keep us posted.

  • Rick Smith (2688 days)

    Hi,
    Thanks for writing – we too can hardly wait to get to pull the trigger – and that time is getting closer all the time! The book you refer to is the best I have run across on the subject and has been a great reference.
    The first rifles will be full caliber 8mm and we will be building them to shoot! If parts wear out they can be replaced. The receivers are being machined out of 4140 and it should hold up very well. Especially when you consider the original 2nd model FG was built on a stamped steel receiver. Forgings or investment castings look very nice and each has it’s merits in the finished product. But both are also very expensive in the initial up front money stage.

  • Ricardus D. (2689 days)

    I first came across the FG42 when I got a hold of a book published by Collector Grade Publications Inc. on the FG42 written by R. Blake Stevens and Thomas B. Dugelby entitled, “Death From Above: The German FG42 Paratroop Rifle.”

    In that book they had a picture of a lawyer in Ohio who owned about 7 or 8 of them, different models as they evolved from the prototype. There is even a picture of one in full auto – re-enactor. The rifle showed no muzzle climb which empty casings are in the air.

    I was in the 2/504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division, so when you say Paratroop rifle (created due to the shortcomings of weapons on the Crete mission to rescue Mussolini), I start to salivate!

    I can’t wait to see something like this in operation, you might want to look at shooting a sub-caliber and not the full on 7.92mm or 8mm round for less wear and tear. Why not 4150 CMV steel for the barrel and a better steel than 4140 for the receiver and if you stick with 4140 will you drop forge it?

  • Timothy J. Bagrowski (2659 days)

    Outstanding, I’ve wanted one of these in Semi-Auto since the 80′s. I’ll be looking forward to updates and availability.

  • Peter (2642 days)

    Put me down of one please if the price is anywhere near reasonable. I know it’s a touchy subject to mention price but if you can hover it around 5k or less there will be lines at your door.

  • Rick Smith (2642 days)

    Hi,
    Thanks for the interest – thats what keeps this project moving! And production guns will be around that magic price point so stay tuned!

  • Online Casino (2588 days)

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    - Thomas

  • Rick Smith (2587 days)

    Good luck with it then – not sure what I said but…… Good luck

  • Tom A. (2405 days)

    I had a design using 7075-T6 aluminum receiver using an AR10 barrel extension and bolt. feeding from Zb36 8×57 20rd magazines

  • Rick Smith (2405 days)

    Hi Tom,
    We looked at that very idea in the beginning so as to be able to utilize more off the shelf items and get it out in a more cost effective timely manner but decided to try to stay as true to the original as possible as many that were interested in the rifle lost interest in it when given that as an option. A good idea!

    Rick

  • Norm (2400 days)

    Many years ago, I was fortunate enough to hold a real FG42 at a museum. At the time, I thought it was a pretty cool weapon; well balanced and not too heavy. The left side magazine can be a bit awkward when carrying, but overall I thought it was a neat weapon. Now that I’m older and have learned more of the story about it, I give you guys maximum props for going for it and building something like this essentially from scratch. I wish I could afford to buy one. I’ve been following your progress over time, and I’m really impressed. Good luck with the project and I hope sales justify all your hard work.

  • Rick Smith (2400 days)

    Hi Norm,
    Appreciate your email – at least you have had your hands on an original! It has been much more than we ever envisioned – difficulty/size of project – and had we just not sorta jumped off the deep end with it I doubt we ever would have. Others have/are doing it (a type one a few years ago here in the US and now SSD in Germany) so we knew it could be done so…….. I too hope sales justify the near total commitment of our resources to this project but to be honest, there will be a huge feeling of pride/accomplishment when the first rifles go out the door. Not to mention that I will finally have my own FG42 and I think my boys each want one!

    Best regards,
    Rick

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  • John (2318 days)

    Hi guys!
    Does this semi-auto FG42 fire from the closed bolt like the original one?

    Best regards,
    John

  • Rick Smith (2317 days)

    Hi John,
    Yes it does – and has to to be a legal ATF approved semi auto design.

    Rick

  • Jimmy Dunlap (2312 days)

    Hi Rick, Slings can be had at http://www.bdus.com for 75.00 dollars. They look pretty good. The metal looks right.

  • Rick Smith (2311 days)

    Thanks Jimmy – some folks on the forum said to be careful doing business – slow response time.

    Rick

  • Jesse (2293 days)

    Keep going! It looks great and I would love to put it this German ww2 collection I’m starting! Everything seems amazing but… My question is will the price range go down after the first run? I just bought a semi auto mg42 clone made by wise lite arms for 2600.00 and would really like to get one of your rifles at around that (: if it’s not possible I still wish you good luck
    -Sincerely,
    Jesse

  • Rick Smith (2293 days)

    Hi Jesse,
    A lower price would be nice but without going into great detail one big difference in the two guns you mention is one is built from a near complete kit with most of the needed parts and pieces and the other is made from scratch with NOTHING to start with.So unless we somehow manage to sell a LOT of them the price isn’t going to have much of a chance to get a lot better.

    Rick

  • Jesse (2292 days)

    Thanks for the answer! Just gonna have to save up for it then (: One more question for you. Y’all seem to be producing the (late war) variants of the fg42 and I wanted to know if you where ever going to put the (early war) production fg42

  • Rick Smith (2292 days)

    Yes, provided we sell enough of the type II’s to justify the time/investment and someone else doesn’t beat us to it!

    Rick

  • David (2279 days)

    Definitely interested in one of these, and the Type I as well if you ever make one! I recently gave up dreaming about having real-deal full-auto versions of all the WWII guns, and started buying semi-auto versions (MG42, MG34, DP-28, etc.). This one would make an excellent addition! Thanks for building it, and keep me up to date please.

  • times now (2262 days)

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  • Rick Smith (2244 days)

    Thanks – we haven’t updated in a while but in a week or two there will be lots of new stuff – if we can break away for a bit!

    Rick

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  • Jack (2238 days)

    Very cool rifle. As an RO at the TacPro 3 Gun Match yesterday, I watched upwards of 80 competitors run through my stage shooting mostly 5.56 AR variants. By far, the most exciting of the day was the FG42 test mule Rick fired. No hiccups and the 8mm is a mean, hard hitting cartridge.

  • Rick Smith (2237 days)

    Thanks for writing Jack, I had a great time as always and appreciated everything you folks did for us! Do you mind if I post your comment on another forum? Gives more credibility to what I said there about shooting the rifle at the event.

    Rick & Bryan

  • Charles Lipscomb (2213 days)

    I’ve been following this for sometime now. Have enjoyed all the info. And had many dreams of owning one or more of these guns. I.’m hoping next year will be THE year. I have read many fussing over the price. I’m not one of them. I see guys drop 5 grand on a match pistol, or 15′ g’s on a watch. This is of more use than a watch, and my old .45 is enough for my needs. I hope you guys sell enough rifles so i can get one,Good luck, Charles

  • Rick Smith (2213 days)

    Thank you Charles – we would love to sell you one next year. Money/value is a very relative thing and when we originally started this project I was wanting to be able to bring it to market for much less but as the project grew so did the reality of it;s cost. Too bad we don’t have all the original tooling, dies, etc, used to make 10 million of them for some foreign government so we could just start stamping them out for a low cost like the AK. We are just happy to have it almost completed and shipping and will hope that we sell enough to bring the price down in the future. Thanks for your interest! Rick

  • Corey m (2165 days)

    Hey i just found out about your website, and they guy who baught his for about 2 grand seemed a bit much considering the fact that it was in the states if i remember right, because i found a company in germany who sells them for about that equivalent amount. I may be young (i just turned 18) but the moment i saw this gun in a weapons encyclopedia i basically fell in love with the gun and hope you guys get to mass produce them because my friends all think im crazy when i say fg42 and they think i mean mg42. Either way when i can get the funds id love to have one of these, ive always been itching too shoot one and cant wait to see the results

  • Corey m (2165 days)

    Also another comment, i read that only a little more than 2,200 of the type two were known to have been produced along with the amount that they made of the type one. I was also wondering if u included this feature or not or ur gonna do it if u make a different model but if u could still use stripper clips to load the mag instrad of replacing the whole mag, the models i have seen have had that function or atleast appeared to

  • Rick Smith (2165 days)

    Hi,
    As far as I am aware only the type I had the stripper clip guide feature. And if we build that rifle it too will have it – but would not be correct on the type II we are now making.

    Rick

  • Mike Richardson (2157 days)

    What is the projected price point? and how much longer?

  • Bill Cavazos (2071 days)

    Hello Rick. I still want to see how your FG mounted with a scope will do at 100 yds using good ammo like the custom Hornady stuff. Want to see how it performs compared to the M1,M14, and FAL… Great work on the FG42 Rick
    P.S. Make sure you do the accuracy test with the bayonet and bipod removed. Thanks
    Bill C.

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